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    Yes, it would help the criminals be much more confident in what they do since they would be the only ones with guns.

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    Of course it would...more kids die from guns than crims...over there....it's a count that grows online..check it out.

    the rest of the world is gobsmacked at the insanity of guns in the US...and the fear you have about your neighbours...by insisting on having a gun at your side, you are defining/re-enforcing the fact that your society is sick...and that rather than fixing society...thats too hard...you have chosen to shoot it out instead.
    Laziness. Ignorance. Insanity...not confined to the perpetrators....

    The crims aren't the only insane ones...you all are. You are driving the wild-west shoot-out to even greater depths, than you realize. The shooting of 20 kids in a school isnt about having the fire-power to limit the dead to 4 or five...teachers with flak-jackets and Glocks...it's about how you ignore mental health issues in your nation...and give it an outlet that carries 50 rounds in a magazine...without a basic check!

    Can't wait for the days when The NRA gets taken to court for advocating Public Violence...and loses...as they should. Disgraceful hubris from fearful dullards.

    The Right To Bare Arms...was formulated when your colony was under duress from foriegn powers....200 or so years ago. You are now the only SuperPower in the world....why do you need to be able to defend yourselves?....fear, I would suggest...fear of the society you have created.

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    Re: Would a ban on guns help crime in the US?

    No it wouldn't. Statistics are a funny thing. They can be manipulated to show only what you want to show. Case in point...yes in countries where guns are outlawed gun violence is extremely low. But violent crime using baseball bats, knives, and anything else they can lay hands on is high. If someone wants to kill they will use whatever they can to accomplish that goal.
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    here's some stats that might interest you, Red

    I reckon your armed services personnel are happy to be in the middle east....less likelihood of being shot and killed...

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    Re: Would a ban on guns help crime in the US?

    Interesting. But dor every article or stat or poll you can find there is one to the opposite. Fact remains guns don't injure, maim, or kill. People do. And should they want to create mayhem then they will find a way and a weapon. You are entitled to your opinion just like I am. Doesn't make either right or wrong just makes it an opinion. But unlike yourself I will not resort to name calling but hey that's just me.

    Btw we are not a colony. We are the country that turned the tide in 2 world wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rednek View Post
    Interesting. But dor every article or stat or poll you can find there is one to the opposite. Fact remains guns don't injure, maim, or kill. People do. And should they want to create mayhem then they will find a way and a weapon. You are entitled to your opinion just like I am. Doesn't make either right or wrong just makes it an opinion. But unlike yourself I will not resort to name calling but hey that's just me.

    Btw we are not a colony. We are the country that turned the tide in 2 world wars.
    BTW..we are..and happy to be one for the moment...but...we held the tide...fought and died.....for years before you finally decided to get involved...you ain't Robinson Crusoe on that subject and you never were....what a hollywood version of history you have....sure...the world is full of dead americans who bled for their beliefs....their sacrifices bring me to emotions I struggle to deal with to this day...but don't insult me by ignoring the world full of cemeteries dedicated to my ancestors...men and women who fought and died long before you buggers decided to join-in.... don't ever forget that...and don't insult their memory. If ever there was a nation of johnny-come-latelies in 2 world wars...you fit the bill. I lost a good friend in
    Afghanistan a while back...a friend of my kids...they are devastated...so am I.

    I accept the fact that america sacrificed to end war...I respect the sacrifice you continue to make..but by saying what you did...insults me beyond the pale...Anyone would think you did it alone...

    you didn't...you didn't in WW1..or 2, or Korea...or Vietnam...or Iraq...or Afghanistan...we stood with you through all that...and still you choose to forget it.

    on Veterans Day..remember that....you had help...peoples who showed you the way, from bitter experience.

    Didn't name call you or anyone else there, Red...nor would I....I have the deepest respect for America's sacrifices over the years...before I was born and since...but reading your post leads me to think you are just another smug prick with a short memory, north of the equator.,..

    I hope that isn't the case.

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    Lol!! My bad singeon. But my understanding of the word dullard is dumbass. So when you call the NRA dullards and other names yes I guess I do take offense to that. Although I am not a member I do know many fine people who are. As far as me being a prick north of you well I assume that is for you to decide but again I won't stoop to your level of name calling just to make me feel better. Just not me.

    And as far as sacrifices made by others during war no where did I say ir do I assume those were in anyway less. And my Hollywood version that you were so happy to throw in actually came from my father who spent over 3 years of his life fighting on the front lines of Europe during WWII. He carried the horrors of what he saw and was required to do to the grave with him. So trust me my friend the sacrifices that military people endure is not something I take lightly.

    This is obviously not a topic that you can discuss calmly so therefore I will stop responding to any post you make here directed at me. Like I said you have your opinion and I mine. Doesn't make either right or wrong. But I guess I'm a prick for realizing that fact.

    Have a great day ny friend. And thanks for the discussion.
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    Lol!! My bad singeon. But my understanding of the word dullard is dumbass. So when you call the NRA dullards and other names yes I guess I do take offense to that. Although I am not a member I do know many fine people who are. As far as me being a prick north of you well I assume that is for you to decide but again I won't stoop to your level of name calling just to make me feel better. Just not me.

    And as far as sacrifices made by others during war no where did I say ir do I assume those were in anyway less. And my Hollywood version that you were so happy to throw in actually came from my father who spent over 3 years of his life fighting on the front lines of Europe during WWII. He carried the horrors of what he saw and was required to do to the grave with him. So trust me my friend the sacrifices that military people endure is not something I take lightly.

    This is obviously not a topic that you can discuss calmly so therefore I will stop responding to any post you make here directed at me. Like I said you have your opinion and I mine. Doesn't make either right or wrong. But I guess I'm a prick for realizing that fact.

    Have a great day ny friend. And thanks for the discussion.
    Red...I was wrong...on many levels...and you are not a prick, judging by your considered response.
    The recent loss still gets to me at times....that post was one of them. I was watching a hollywood version of events at the time- John Wayne in Vietnam..and not one mention of Australians ( or anyone else)..in it...that film and the many like it out of hollywood amount to garbage when viewed from an aliies perspective....and from which I took your line about "winning the war" quite badly and vented my loss and frustration at you...this shouldn't have happened. I apologise.

    I still think a tighter control on guns..and who can own them...and the types available...would dramatically drop the death toll in America. We stopped ownership of semi-auto weapons many years ago..and although the number of guns in Australia is higher than ever...deaths are way down..because their availability was linked to very hard exams for those wanting a firearm. People still kill people here..sadly...but not 20 at a time...not even 5 at a time.

    I don't ask for a reply...it's not warranted...and a good choice of yours to refuse one...you have struck a nerve in me and it's best not to keep twanging it.

    Best wishes for a fine, quiet life...

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