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    I have a permit to carry a gun and I carry it most places with me to defend myself. Crime has sky rocketed in my city and it's required for protection (in my opinion) because most of the criminals around here can obtain guns....whether it be online or whatever...they can get them.

    My son is a gun collector. He has more guns in his house than a army. (Figure of speech) He doesn't buy them to shoot people, he collects them as a hobby. I worry about people breaking in his home and stealing them and using them for crimes thus the reason he's finally got a security system installed.

    I've had something happen recently in my life that made me really think about guns and IF they were banned would it had happened. Yep...it would have happened but minus the gun.

    Think about it...guns weren't used on 9/11...airplanes were. Then we have the anthrax that went around. People will find ways to be cruel without the use of a gun.

    I think, I will keep mine.
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    Using the right to bear arms is a bad argument for pro-gun folks. It really is. The right to bear arms was based on a certain timeframe and the actions at the time. As a society, we are forced to adjust what the meaning of certain laws are. Sexual harassment, racism, etc. have all changed face as we have progressed. Let's look at the freedom of speech. Does that mean you can say whatever you want without any consequences? Does it? We have defamation law suits that come up if you use that freedom of speech in the wrong way. I dare you to make any threats about the President. It's not really a full freedom of speech. So that same argument should then apply to right to bear arms. We are forced to apply some "standard" to what the spirit of that doctrine means.

    I just think that the pro-gun folks would gain alot more traction by not pointing at that one thing and saying see?? it says we can.. Just my 2 cents. It just has that feel of we can do it cause it says we can. When is the last time you won and argument cause your response was I did it cause I can? There are better reasons out there that I get on board with to own guns, use them...
    If it is a bad law, then amend the constitution to remove it. If we begin to bypass the basic tenants of the base of all of our country's laws, then what to we really stand for? Slavery was taken care of by amending the Constitution. Alcohol sales were abolished in the constitution and look at what happened to this country, with the killings and whatnot from the bootleggers. Then it was repealed (also in the constitution). The right to bear arms is a given right in this country (Bill of Rights). If we start creating laws to weaken the constitution, soon there will be no base rights left. We don't talk about boarding soldiers in private homes, do we? Why are some 'rights' allowed to be infringed upon, but not others?

    Admittedly, the amendment was with relation to a national 'militia' not per se for personal use. However, there were as many pistols then as rifles.
    I return to my first statement ... If guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will own guns.
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    A gun ban will not help. It will only allow the criminals among us to have more vulnerable victims! Evil people will always find ways to carry out evil acts.

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    I am answering this before I read any responses...

    I don't think a ban on guns will help anything.. it's like drugs.. it's illegal to have but people get it anyhow.. that same concept will happen with guns... guns are a part of our history.. they aren't a bad thing.. it's the people who use them to harm, maim, or kill who are bad... I myself have owned a gun and I hope to own another one day.. I was going to avoid this topic because i've been in some debates on this elsewhere and it can be brutal.. however, I appreciate everyone's thoughts on this and I respect your opinions..

    my thought? no, don't ban guns, but perhaps put a limitation on them.. what that would be though is beyond my thoughts at this time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Georgiagirl View Post
    I have a permit to carry a gun and I carry it most places with me to defend myself. Crime has sky rocketed in my city and it's required for protection (in my opinion) because most of the criminals around here can obtain guns....whether it be online or whatever...they can get them.

    My son is a gun collector. He has more guns in his house than a army. (Figure of speech) He doesn't buy them to shoot people, he collects them as a hobby. I worry about people breaking in his home and stealing them and using them for crimes thus the reason he's finally got a security system installed.

    I've had something happen recently in my life that made me really think about guns and IF they were banned would it had happened. Yep...it would have happened but minus the gun.

    Think about it...guns weren't used on 9/11...airplanes were. Then we have the anthrax that went around. People will find ways to be cruel without the use of a gun.

    I think, I will keep mine.


    I have used that argument as well, but some people can't see that... if people want to kill they will kill.. not necessarily with a gun, but with a knife, a poker, a car, a plane, whatever they can put their hands on.. if they want to kill huge amounts of people they will even make bombs... guns are not the problem in this country, it's the people who want to kill.. sorry.. just had to agree with you here..
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    Absolutely not. Like has already been said, there are hundreds of millions of guns in the US. If they are outlawed, all these guns won't just disappear. What will happen is that the law abiding people will abide by the law, and not have one. The criminals won't pay any attention to the law, and will still be armed.
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    Take away our guns, so only the criminals will have access to them, nope.
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    It's real simple...you outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.
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    Yes...banning guns would...help crime. (It was how the question was asked)
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